Vegan Vs. Paleo Diet: What’s the Best Diet to Follow?
Jordan: Hi Dr. Axe fans, it’s John Rubin here
filling in for the good doctor and we’re going
to talk about diet today.
What diet are you on?
Are you a vegan, eating a plant-based diet?
Are you all about the paleo craze?
Maybe it’s GAPS.
So many diets, so little time.
But I want to talk to you today about what
is the best diet for us to be eating and I
believe some of the answers may surprise you.
We’re also going to make some great recipes
helping you get the nutrients that are missing
in our diets today into your system easily
And I may have a special guest come on and
demonstrate just how easy and delicious it
can be to get powerful nutrients into your
So if you’re watching us today, we call this
program Ancient Medicine Today and Dr. Josh
Axe and myself, Jordan Rubin are on, one or
the other, five days a week, Monday through
And what we want to encourage you to do if
you know anyone out there who’s following
a paleo diet, following a vegan diet or is
completely confused on which way to go, there’s
vegetarians, there’s pescetarians, there’s
even beegans which are vegans that eat honey.
It’s all over the map.
If you’re a GAPS dieter, if you’re following
a special plan due to a health concern or
you know someone who is, press the Share button.
Make sure to tell everyone you know that they’re
going to see and learn the down-low on paleo
And as you can see today we have the top plant
foods and the top animal foods.
And what’s interesting is, vegans will only
eat plant foods but paleo dieters not only
consume animal foods but a more omnivorous
So we’re going to let you know what the top
plant foods are, what the top animal foods
are and help you make an educated choice on
what you should consume.
And again there’s going to be some great simple
recipes including one that I love for my children
It’s a great way to sneak some of the world’s
healthiest foods into their diet.
Now let me quickly explain what a vegan diet
A vegan diet differs from a vegetarian diet
in that a true vegan diet is one where you
do not consume anything that comes from an
animal or an insect.
I know you don’t really always catch that
but in the old days my parents who were vegans
I would say 30 even 40 years ago, they would
use the adage, don’t consume anything that
comes from anything that has a face.
So that means no animal foods, no meat, no
fish, no dairy, and we’re even talking about
no honey because honey comes from a bee which
well, technically not an animal is an insect.
No eggs also.
Typically vegetarians can consume some dairy
and maybe even some eggs and then they go
into words such as Lacto-Ovo or Lacto vegetarian.
But a vegan is someone who consumes only plant
And I’m here to tell you that there is a way
to make a vegan diet extremely healthful.
In fact I am somebody who is trying always
to get the best quality plant foods in my
diet each and every day.
And I’m someone who believes that you can
consume high-quality animal foods.
But if you’re dealing with digestive challenges
and you’re somebody who wants to really boost
your immune system, you might find that consuming
foods from one of these groups that you’re
already not consuming, may make a big difference.
In case you’re just tuning in I’m Jordan Rubin.
I’m here for Dr. Josh Axe and together we
bring you Ancient Medicine Today.
So if you’re somebody who wants to know the
lowdown on whether you should follow a vegan
diet, a paleo diet, or an omnivorous diet,
maybe it’s the GAPS diet, maybe it’s another
type of special healing diet, we’re going
to tell you the best plant foods, the best
animal foods and we’ll see the winner of paleo
So we talked about what a vegan diet is.
A paleo diet is a diet that is very first-century
I want to be very clear.
I am not someone who believes that we’ve been
on the earth for millions or billions of years.
I only use the term paleo to meet with the
popular nomenclature of the Paleolithic diet
which connotes the Paleolithic age.
Personally one day I want to create the biblio
Frankly, if you’re watching right now and
you agree with me that the Paleo diet has
some good tenants but we should be following
a Biblio diet which means a diet that’s 5,000
years old from the beginning of time according
to creation of the Bible, then you let me
Chime in and say, “I’m all for the biblio
diet” and we’ll kind of see how many of you
The paleolithic diet was initially developed
by Dr. Loren Cordain and I believe it was
a professor at Colorado State University.
Dr. Cordain believes that modern foods such
as dairy and grains, beans and legumes caused
digestive and immune system issues due to
So he believes in a time period where people
hunted and gathered or foraged for their food
and so that was very, very important.
So when we’re talking about a paleo diet,
it is typically animal food.
So meat, eggs, and technically, not dairy.
So when you’re consuming a paleo diet, no
dairy, no grains which are supposedly foods
of modern agriculture, you want to avoid legumes
which contain lectins which can impact the
health negatively and cause inflammation and
you want to be free, as I mentioned, of grains.
Now you can consume plant foods typically
fruits and vegetables mostly low sugar.
We’re finding that a lot of people do really
well on a paleo type diet who need to lose
weight, balance their blood sugar and there
are let’s say extreme versions of that which
we may touch on such as the Ketogenic diet
which is virtually all high protein and fat
So if you’re just tuning in I’m Jordan Rubin
here for Dr Josh Axe.
Ancient Medicine Today is a program that brings
you the latest information on health and wellness
and today it’s the showdown paleo versus vegan.
Which diet is better?
Or perhaps could there be a combination of
We’re going to have great recipes that are
going to be kid tested in just a few moments
and find ways for you to get key nutrients
in your diet.
On the big board, we have the top five plant-based
foods and the top five animal foods.
Let’s get started.
Number one, green, leafy, veggies.
Both of these two diets agree that green leafies
are critical for your health.
They have chlorophyll, they’ve got vitamin
A, and more particularly beta-carotene, they
are great for detoxifying the body, providing
energy and they also do something called alkalize
Because they have an excellent source of minerals.
So green leafy vegetables are also low in
calories, high in fiber and really, really
good for you.
So green leafy vegetables such as lettuces,
kale, and spinach which we have right here
are great eaten raw, they’re great in juices
and they’re great cooked.
Green leafy vegetables are the number one
plant based food in my opinion, for you to
get in your diet every day.
Grandma said it, mom said it, eat more greens.
So green leafy is our number one.
Number two, berries.
Berries are the bomb when it comes to fruits.
I believe green leafies are the best vegetables,
berries are the best fruits.
Because they’re loaded with antioxidants.
They protect your cells from damage.
Colored berries, raspberries, blueberries,
strawberries, blackberries contain pigments
such as anthocyanin which helps support brain
health, immune system health, can even support
your gut and cranberries are great for the
There are many, many other berries from around
the world such as Indian gooseberry which
I’m a big fan of, mole berries are really
So many berries.
Berries are typically low in sugar and high
I told you all on a recent program that I’ve
been trying to consume one pint of organic
blueberries a day for their ability to support
the immune system and boost the brain.
I’m going to show you in a few minutes how
to get a full serving of blueberries plus
other amazing nutrients in one simple smoothie.
So berries are a huge benefit to the diet.
Typically the less sweet the berry the better.
Now berries have another amazing benefit.
They contain seeds.
The seeds of berries contain substances that
boost the immune system and transform your
Blueberries have small seeds.
We know strawberries have seeds, raspberries
have seeds and Blackberries have really large
Those seeds protect your body and help you
have healthy cells.
So if you’re somebody who’s dealing with something
that causes their cells to struggle, what
The smallest part of you, I recommend that
you consume berries.
Let’s get to number three.
Number three, herbs.
Now I’ve said this on this program before.
The hierarchy of plant foods.
Fruits are good, veggies are better, herbs
are awesome and spices are the best which
gives you a clue what we’re going to talk
Herbs are awesome and we don’t consume enough
Herbs such as lavender, rosemary, thyme, parsley
can be considered an herb, horseradish.
Many people consider . . . some spices is
We’ll get to that in a moment.
But think of leafy herbs, oregano, et cetera.
They usually provide the antimicrobial benefits
and they are very dense in nutrients and so
let’s get to our number four top plant food.
It’s a category I alluded to earlier, it’s
Spices are amazing.
We don’t get enough of them and I’ll give
you probably my top four spices that should
be in everyone’s fridge, medicine cabinet,
or even their daily tea.
Let’s start with turmeric.
Turmeric is yellow or orange.
It’s great to support healthy inflammation.
It’s awesome for your immune system and your
Turmeric’s cousin ginger is really, really
amazing especially for the gut.
Turmeric and ginger are related and they’re
Cook with them, juice them, use them in recipes.
Fresh, dried, or supplements, you can’t go
My third favorite spice is cinnamon.
Turmeric for joints, ginger for the gut and
cinnamon for blood sugar.
If you’re someone out there who needs to balance
your blood sugar, I recommend consuming one-quarter
to one teaspoon of cinnamon a day.
Again, you can consume cinnamon bark, you
can consume dried cinnamon or cinnamon in
a supplement and any of these spices are amazing
for essential oils.
So if you’re watching this today and you’re
interested in top essential oils as spices,
Is it turmeric, is it ginger, is it cinnamon
or perhaps my fourth favorite spice, clove.
Clove is awesome as a microbial balancer.
It’s great for the gums and it is really,
really powerful as an antioxidant.
Clove by weight has more antioxidants than
almost any berry, more than pomegranate and
certainly more than citrus.
Now you’ll notice I am sans smartphone.
I want to make a confession here.
While Dr. Josh Axe and his team are techies,
I am decidedly not.
I love to multitask but it’s a bit much for
me to try to read your questions on a smartphone
while trying to make sure that I don’t hit
the wrong button and talk at the same time.
So I have a trusty producer sitting slightly
off camera that will relay the questions that
you have on diet paleo versus vegan versus
What’s best for you, what’s best for your
kids and don’t forget we’ve got great recipes
on how you can infuse your body with powerful
nutrients that are of primary interest to
vegans and paleo dieters alike.
So we talked about four areas of plant foods,
let’s go into animal foods.
Now I want to say this.
I love plant foods and I eat animal foods.
What I find is that plant-based dieters are
very offended by animal food consumption whereas
animal food lovers are kind of fine with plant
So if you are a plant-based dieter, I believe
there are many great things to add to your
We mentioned four.
Coconut is amazing, avocado is amazing.
We talk about that all the time.
Nuts and seeds are amazing.
There are wonderful plant foods and if you
are a plant-based dieter, if you’re a vegan,
great, we love you.
We want you to be on board with us.
However, we also believe there are some powerful
animal foods and we always recommend that
they are of the highest quality, free of chemicals
So let’s get started.
What are some top animal foods?
Number one, no surprise to you I’m sure, bone
I have seen many plant-based dieters or vegans
that decided to add some animal foods to their
diet start with bone broth.
I have seen people with gut challenges or
a need to lose weight, a need to detoxify,
start with bone broth.
When people have come to me over the years
for coaching and they say, “What do I do to
jumpstart my health?”
I always recommend bone broth first.
It’s gentle, it’s mild and more than that
it builds your body.
It holds you together.
It supports the health of your skin, hair,
nails, digestive tract.
It is great for your immune system, right?
What did grandma say you should consume when
you’re not feeling great?
What did the book series say that writes about
all these topics to help your soul?
It is Chicken Soup for the Soul.
Chicken soup is bone broth really.
Bone broth is the number one food in my mind
for those who call themselves paleo eaters
and it is great for omnivores everywhere.
If you are someone who loves the GAPS diet,
if you followed my Maker’s diet, those are
very similar, you know that bone broth is
a critical component to regaining your health.
Bone broth, one of the top animal foods if
you’re someone who consumes healthy animal
Number two, the incredible edible egg.
Now eggs were out of favor for a while because
they contain cholesterol.
That’s one of the things that makes them great.
I’m not going to go off onto a tangent but
cholesterol in food particularly eggs helps
It builds reproductive health, hormones etc,
They’re made from cholesterol.
So eggs were out and then the yolk was out
but guess what?
If I’m going to consume an egg and throw anything
away it’s the white.
I think the whole egg is best.
But eggs from chickens pasture raised, eggs
from duck and probably my favorite egg of
all really small, fish eggs, caviar.
You might say, “Well, I’m not rich or famous
I can’t afford caviar.”
Oh yeah, you can.
Go to a specialty grocer and you’ll be surprised
at how affordable fish roe and caviar really
Salmon roe is awesome.
It’s orange, it contains not only omega-3s,
it contains vitamin E and D, phospholipids
which are great for the brain and astaxanthin
which is a powerful antioxidant and it’s what
makes salmon orange, pink or even red.
So we’ve got bone broth and eggs.
What came first?
The bone broth or the eggs?
Well, in this case, it’s the bone broth.
Number three, organ meats.
Okay, so, organ meats folks if you can do
it from a clean source loaded with iron, loaded
with B12, great source of minerals, the best
source of vitamin A and D and omega-3 fats.
Someone might ask and I bet you already have,
“If I eat liver from an animal, isn’t the
liver where the body purifies toxins?”
You are absolutely right.
But the actual liver of an animal particularly
if one is raised properly is very, very clean.
The final top animal food is fish.
Folks, if you study cultures from around the
world, those that consume the largest amount
of fish are typically the healthiest.
We know that fish can be high in omega-3 fatty
Fish is a great source of protein.
Some fish, salmon, mackerel herring and sardines,
tuna, particularly smaller tuna, are high
in omega-3 fats.
Some fish including salmon have phospholipids
But fish is also a rich source of minerals
And I could have easily had sea vegetables
or seaweed up here as one of the most nutrient
dense vegetable foods.
But seafood, fish is rich in the mineral iodine
which is good for what?
Iodine is an important nutrient for thyroid.
You might say, “But I don’t like fish.
My kids won’t eat it.”
Find a way to get fish in their diet because
for centuries fish has become a powerful food
for those that need to consume it.
So in just a minute I’m going to have my special
guest come up and we’re going to show you
how to get the best of both worlds, nutrients
that vegans love and that Paleo dieters love.
We’re talking today about paleo versus vegan.
Two of the most popular diets out there, which
Vegan means only plant foods.
Paleo is animal foods but doesn’t allow foods
of modern industry or agriculture.
No dairy, no grains, no beans, and legumes.
It’s wild, it’s hunter-gatherer and caveman
Now I said earlier that I personally don’t
believe there was a Paleolithic period.
If you don’t like that, let us know.
But if you’re like me and you would rather
see a third diet come on the board called
the biblio diet, you need to send in biblio
What’s a biblio diet?
I wrote a book called “The Makers Diet” and
it details thousands of years of history and
the foods and the lifestyle that saw our ancestors
It’s not paleo, it’s not vegan.
It is the best of both worlds and if you love
it, maybe we’ll have a biblio diet on our
hands sometime soon.
So Jason, what question do we have that might
be interesting today?
Jason: Jordan, Sarah writes in.
“I heard that eating too many cruciferous
vegetables can be toxic.
Is this true?”
Jordan: It’s a great question.
Now we have kale right here.
So what is a cruciferous vegetable first of
Kale, collard, broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels
sprouts, watercress, cabbage to name a few.
Cruciferous vegetables contain goitrogen and
if you’re somebody who has thyroid issues,
you may, particularly a goiter, you may exacerbate
the condition by consuming cruciferous vegetables.
There’s ways around it.
That’s a great way to make them more friendly
to the body and there are ways to consume
cruciferous vegetables in sprouted form.
So if you are someone who has thyroid issues
you can still get the best of cruciferous
vegetables, eat some sauerkraut, broccoli
sprouts and watercress.
Those are all mildly goitrogenic but for most
of you, cruciferous vegetables containing
sulphur compounds to detoxify the body are
Johns Hopkins University did a great study
on the benefits of broccoli sprouts.
You need to check it out online because it
is absolutely amazing for your immune system
and your detoxification.
As Jason, one of our producers is organizing
your comments, we will begin to show you how
to take perhaps the top two foods, plant and
animal, combine them simply and easily and
I even have a taste tester that should be
able to show you how delicious and nutritious
this drink can be.
So what we’re going to do is take bone broth
Now remember, bone broth protein greens is
a brand new product.
You’re not even going to hear about it probably
for a couple more weeks.
Bone broth protein greens combines bone broth
protein with raw green juice in a dried form
that will give you the equivalent of two to
three cups of bone broth homemade and you’re
going to get a shot of juice along with it.
Collagen, chondroitin, glucosamine, hyaluronic
acid and 20 grams of protein plus chlorophyll,
This is an alkalizing formula.
If you want to alkalize your body, if you
want minerals, this is for you.
So we’ve got some purified water, right here,
little shaker bottle.
One scoop of bone broth protein greens.
This is going to be awesome.
I love to show this.
Dr. Axe made a mess of this by not tightening
the lid last week so I’m going to tighten
it extra hard.
All right, so a little shake.
I love these bottles.
Look how green this is.
Check this out.
This is my breakfast folks every single morning
bone broth protein greens.
You know what’s interesting, there’s not a
person I meet that I don’t recommend two amazing
Bone broth and veggie juice.
But guess what?
I travel around the world lecturing and I
ask people, “How many of you think veggie
juice is good for me?”
Everybody says yes.
How many of you consume it every day?
Two to three percent.
Bone broth, how many of you have heard of
it and love it?
Lots of people.
How many of you make it every day?
Not so many.
Folks, imagine every day getting the power
of raw vegetable juice and bone broth together
for the first time ever in easy form.
It’s so good.
It’s not only been my breakfast but I give
it to my 12-year-old son Joshua who many of
you have seen.
Last week back by popular demand from his
days at home school.
Here’s what he said to my wife Nikki, “Mom
can I be on today to practice my public speaking?”
So you’re going to have to tell us how Joshua
Now he’s 12, he’s not used to being in front
of the camera.
But this will be his third appearance.
We’re working on eye contact and smiling.
So we want you to encourage Joshua and let
him know how he’s doing as he comes in to
show all of you how good bone broth protein
Folks listen, this is just bone broth protein
There’s no stevia, no monk fruit, no sweeteners.
This is the real stuff.
It tastes mild.
It’s kind of like a tease.
So son, come on in here and ladies and gentlemen
this is Joshua Rubin.
He’s taking the place.
My 12-year-old son, he loves to eat healthful
Go for it, buddy.
It’s great for his skin.
You don’t have to drink it all real fast.
I just want you to have some because I’m making
a smoothie later.
So now why don’t you tell us, Joshua, why
you consume bone broth protein greens every
Joshua: Well bone broth has 20 grams of protein
in it per one serving and a shot of green
juice as my dad said and I think it tastes
really good so that’s why I drink it every
Jordan: And Joshua does love eating healthy
but he also loves delicious food.
Last night we were out, Joshua and the kids
made a gluten free pizza, right?
High antioxidant pizza really, really good.
Now I will say this, you were a little concerned
about the green mustache.
We do have a paper towel.
It’s not too green right now but you can go
ahead and get it.
Every morning I feel great that my son gets
the equivalent of two to three cups of bone
broth and a shot of green juice.
You can go on and have another sip.
I want people to know it really tastes good.
And how would you describe the taste after
you’re done drinking Mr. Green mustache over
Joshua: Well, to me it tastes like a combination
of bone broth with a little wheat grass in
it, so it’s not that bad.
Kind of like tea, you know, pretty mild, excellent.
We’re excited to give you tools to transform
So I’m going to have you scoot over and maybe
drink a little bit more of this.
Folks, if your child or you want to get the
power of bone broth, fruits and veggies, this
whole list, green leafies, berries, herbs,
spices all together I’m going to show you
how we do it in the Rubin household.
This is called the paleo vegan super green
bone broth smoothie.
Don’t quote me on that because I’m just making
the name up on.
That’s a little long, isn’t it?
Joshua: A little long.
Jordan: Paleo vegan super green bone broth
I usually like names that are less than 72
syllables but this is a smoothie that gives
you great nutrition and it’s a little sneaky
because we’re going to put some things in
there that your kids normally don’t eat.
So we’re going to take some organic apple
Now I would prefer, juice it yourself or buy
a bottled juice that is HPP or cold pressed.
The other option is, we used to go and do
We’d make juice or go to the store or juice
bar say I want fresh apple and kale combo.
So we’ve got 12 ounces of apple juice in our
paleo vegan super green bone broth smoothie.
You’re going to come up with a name as we’re
One banana, organic is always best.
Okay, so one banana, so it’s going to be a
little bit sweet.
Thank you, son.
Then we’re going to add one cup of blueberries.
These are frozen, you can also add fresh.
Now blueberries remember, are a great source
It’s what makes them purple and this also
makes the smoothie sort of icy.
You can add ice but I prefer to use frozen
I’ve added frozen strawberries, frozen pomegranate.
I like to go to the health food store or even
the club store and get one of those antioxidant
You like those, don’t you?
Joshua: Those are awesome.
Jordan: All right, so now we’re going to add
a little bit of kale.
One to two cups.
I’m good at measuring on the fly.
But add some raw kale in here, okay?
I always like to use high-speed juicers, so
we’re going to see if this one works.
I’ve already got a note to bring a higher
So this is spinach.
So we’ve got raw spinach and kale going right
This is the sneaky part and bone broth protein
So this is the paleo vegan.
And you may think I’m teasing but I’ve met
people that say they’re paleo vegans.
I think they’re just kind of confused.
All right we’re going to use this blender.
Admittedly this is not my blender.
This is someone else’s blender, doesn’t come
I absolutely take no liability and this has
nothing to do with me.
I’ve only chosen the ingredients.
So we’re going to power it up here and, not
Joshua: It works.
Jordan: It’s working.
You want to make sure the fiber is completely
It’s getting there.
All right, all that heating on this poor blender.
I’m really sorry.
Now folks remember this is . . . who said
I could get it off.
That might be the issue.
All right, got it.
Okay, so now Joshua who already consumed much
of a bone broth protein and water now he’s
going to consume something that contains blueberries,
banana, apple juice, spinach, kale, and bone
broth protein greens and truthfully what does
Joshua: Oh, it’s awesome.
Jordan: It’s awesome.
So what are you getting from that?
Joshua: Well, it tastes like banana, apple,
You can’t taste the green or the bone broth
Jordan: It’s a 12-year-old kid, out of the
mouth of babes.
So is this something I can start making?
Joshua: Oh yeah, I’ll drink this.
Jordan: Check this out.
Twenty grams of protein just the bone broth
protein greens alone, the equivalent of one
shot of wheat grass but it’s gluten free.
Folks, no sweeteners, no thickeners, just
raw organic greens and bone broth protein.
We added a banana, we added frozen organic
blueberries, kale, spinach, kid tested, blender
and dad approved.
So Joshua, any final words on bone broth protein
You’ve been consuming this in test phase for
Joshua: Yeah, about six weeks.
Jordan: So those of you who saw Joshua on
our special on the road with Dr. Josh and
Jordan at Natural Products Expo East showing
all the great products that we were finding,
Joshua earned his trip to Baltimore, Maryland
by consuming one serving of bone broth protein
greens in the morning and one serving of bone
broth protein turmeric in the afternoon.
I have a little secret for you.
Not only did Joshua consume bone broth protein
green juice today, he consumed another bone
broth protein right after as I was leaving
the house, but we’re going to talk to you
about that in a couple of weeks.
We got all kinds of new bone broth protein.
It’s spreading out through the entire country.
You’re going to find it not only right here
on the Dr. Axe store but in health food stores
nation and worldwide.
We’re very excited about it.
So what do you say about all this paleo vegan
stuff, bone broth protein greens?
What were your observations of today’s program?
Joshua: Yeah, it was very interesting.
The difference between vegan and paleo and
how paleo talking about old times and all
But yeah, I love bone broth greens.
Been drinking it for six weeks and after a
while, I can’t even . . . I mean, at the beginning
it tasted a little weird to me because I wasn’t
used to wheat grass, but I mean after about
three times I got used to it now I love it.
Jordan: Absolutely and he’s definitely one
of the biblio, in the biblio camp.
All right buddy.
Props, hugs, you can hug on camera.
We’re hugging on camera, smile look up, chin
Good job, buddy.
I appreciate it.
Paleo versus vegan, what’s the verdict folks?
My personal opinion having been a vegan and
having gone on a diet that is mostly meat
and fat, I’ve done both, I believe that the
best is a combo.
Now I know some of you will be insulted by
Remember if you’re a vegan I think you can
do a lot of great things with your diet.
I’m going to shut this off but then I’ve had
a little accident before so, in case I was
really turning it on.
I believe that if you’re a vegan by consuming
green leafies, berries, herbs, spices, chia,
flax, coconut, and avocado, you can have a
wonderful healthy diet.
I personally believe an omnivorous diet is
If you’re a paleo dieter, consuming bone broth,
eggs, organ meats and fish are wonderful but
so are all these.
And anybody who lives, breathes, eats, thinks
or drinks, get your greens and get your bone
broth because the clear winners bone broth
and green leafies are awesome.
They’re here to stay.
And almost every health enthusiast, nutritionists
and Jewish grandmother agrees that bone broth
and greens are awesome.
Folks, my son Joshua is here today and my
other children are at home.
Hi Emma, hi Samuel, hi Alexis, hi Isabella
and hi to my wonderful wife Nikki.
They watch our program Ancient Medicine Today
as part of their home school nutrition and
Of course, Joshua said, “Mom, can I be on
the set today because I want to practice public
What better way to do it than in front of
tens of thousands of you.
So we did say that somebody could ask questions
about any kind of diet.
Jason: Yeah, Janet asked, “If you follow a
vegan diet, what are the top three foods you
recommend to ensure a complete nutritional
If you’re a vegan, what are the top three
foods you need to ensure a complete nutrition?
Now, you’ve probably heard that vitamin D
and Vitamin B12 are difficult to get in a
So let me say this.
The way to get vitamin D without eating foods
that contain it is to get sunlight.
Make sure to get sun in the times of year
that the sun is out, which really most of
the year get sun from 12 to 2 p.m.
That’s when the sun is right in the middle
of the sky and the rays are the longest and
the best for vitamin D. I know that’s not
a food but it’s really good.
Anything fermented will help your gut produce
B12 and spirulina has a B12 analog.
So I’m going to throw that in there.
Spirulina, fermented foods.
I always say this and I’m going to go longer
than the three.
If you’re going to be a vegan I recommend
coconut foods, avocado or olives, any of the
monounsaturated fat foods and chia, flax,
So a plant based omega-3.
So chia, flax, hemp seed, avocado, olive,
macadamia not particularly.
Avocado and olive and as we said coconut.
Coconut is really, really important.
You need fats if you’re on a plant-based diet.
Highly recommend it.
Let’s get another question here.
Let’s get a hard question.
Jason: A hard question.
[Inaudible 00:35:33] asks, “What is ketosis?
I hear it a lot in relation to paleo, not
sure what it means.”
Jordan: Okay, the ketogenic diet or ketosis
is a state where the body is not burning carbohydrates
for fuel but burning ketone bodies and then
using your own fat.
Most people say that you need to get between
20 and 50 grams of carbs a day to be in nutritional
Ketosis is a state where you’re not burning
sugar anymore and many people with serious
health conditions or that want to lose weight
or children with brain imbalances have done
well on a ketogenic diet.
Ketogenic diet is pretty much protein on a
moderate level, fat at a high level, and very
Paleo is not keto, but keto is almost always
Go figure that out and I’m not going to ask
you if you’re a paleo or keto vegan.
I don’t even have time to figure out what
that means but probably someone out there.
Jason: In relation to one of the top animal
foods, Cheryl asks, “What about mercury in
Where do you fall on that and what are the
guidelines that you recommend?”
Jordan: Mercury in fish, heavy metals in fish.
Here’s what I say.
Now, this might sound argumentative but people
say, “Why do you eat fish because there’s
The environment got worse over the last few
I would argue and say that the lettuce has
more mercury than it used to as well but it’s
a great question.
Tuna is the poster child for high mercury
fish but I still eat tuna.
When I eat tuna I try to consume young or
Well, wait a minute.
I don’t see young tuna in the store.
If you consume high omega-3 or low mercury
tuna, it’s in there, you can actually find
tuna from brands such as Wild Planet or there’s
a couple of other brands, Henry and Lisa’s,
they are low mercury tuna also high in omega-3s.
The way you know if tuna is young is it contains
high fats in a base of water.
So you know how tuna comes in olive oil, comes
in spring water.
Tuna in water that has three, four, five grams
of fat is made from smaller fish because as
the tuna age they get bigger and they have
Isn’t that a cool thing?
Young tuna, low mercury and there’s other
fish that are lower in mercury naturally.
Always wild fish and I believe that the fat
in fish helps to detoxify the body of mercury.
So you may be getting metals, but you’re also
discarding them and guess what else helps
to detoxify metals?
Greens, bone broth.
As long as you’re consuming those, fish can
be really, really healthy.
Next question, sir.
Jason: This question is coming from probably
dozens of commenters but essentially what
is the GAPS diet and where does it fall in
this vegan, paleo discussion?
The GAPS diet is named for the gut in psychology
syndrome, really talking about the fact that
your gut is the second brain.
Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride out of the United
Kingdom who I worked with years and years
ago created the GAPS diet which involves gut
rehabilitation starting with bone broth then
adding fermented foods and keeping starches
or disaccharides low.
So the GAPS diet, the gut and psychology syndrome
recommends bone broth and it is commonly used
for people with gut issues or brain issues.
And while I’m on the gut issues side, tomorrow
I’m going to be sharing a very special program
here at 10:30.
If you know anyone who’s dealing with IBS,
Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis, I’m going
to share a powerful story you will not want
to miss and even if you’re someone with leaky
gut, constipation, or any gut issues, 10:30
Central time you don’t want to miss it.
This information has never been shared before
the way we’re going to present it.
Jason: Laurie asks, “Can essential oils give
as much benefit as the herbs and the spices
Jordan: That’s a great question, Laurie.
Essential oils are awesome but they’re oils.
Plants have benefits from multiple fractions.
Oils are the lipo soluble or fatty portions.
For example, if you consume lavender oil,
If you use it, it’s amazing.
But the lavender plant does have some additional
So when consuming my four favorite spices,
turmeric, ginger, cinnamon, and clove, I recommend
make a tea or decoction and use essential
oils and I’ll give you a little secret.
We’re working on some things that combine
all of that together.
So herbs and spices are great.
The oils truly are one of the very best parts.
And by the way, here’s what’s great about
If you’re a paleo dieter or a vegan or ketogenic
or GAPS or if you’re everything in between,
you can use essential oils topically and orally.
So folks, I want to thank you for being here
We got bone broth greens right here.
We’ve got an amazing smoothie and we’ve got
all of you championing our message that food
I’m Jordan Rubin, on behalf of Dr. Josh Axe
and with our special guest Joshua Rubin, wishing
you amazing health.
Dr. Axe: Hi, Dr. Axe here.
I want to say, thanks so much for checking
out this YouTube video and also, don’t forget
to subscribe if you want to get more great
content on things like herbs, essential oils,
natural remedies, and how to use food as medicine.
Also, check out more of our content on my
Thanks for watching.