Tips for Keto Beginners | A Conversation with Aaron from FatForWeightLoss!

Tips for Keto Beginners | A Conversation with Aaron from FatForWeightLoss!

July 17, 2019 17 By William Morgan


Guys, I’ve got a really long video coming up
this week. It’s an IG live session that I
did with my buddy Aaron. …Not me.
A different Aaron. Comin’ right up.
Hey, guys. Welcome to A.D. Keto. My name is Aaron. This is the channel where I talk
about the ketogenic diet. I do some keto
food vlogs, I do some keto product
reviews, and I do some keto recipes. If this
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content. About a week ago, I got a message
from my buddy Aaron on Instagram. His handle over there is @FatForWeightLoss.
He’s also got a channel here on
YouTube, called FatForWeightLoss, which
you can see right up there, on which he
does beautiful videos of him preparing
recipes. I made a cheesecake recipe that
he posted a few weeks ago, and it was oh
so good. He got in touch with me on
Instagram, and said, “Hey, do you want to do
a a session of Instagram Live with me? We
can talk about keto and, you know, kind of
tackle some of the questions that maybe
beginners might have?” And I said, “That
sounds like an awesome idea.” And I wanted to make it available to those of you who
are not on Instagram, or did not see it.
We had a great conversation, and hope you
enjoy it! I will see you back here at the
end of it. Alright! I’m good! How are you?
I’m very very good! I am. You know, for
anyone who’s tuning in right now, this is
A.D. Keto, below or above, I’m not sure
which orientation screen everyone else
is in, but this is this is fantastic. So
when you joined Instagram, and I saw that
you were A.D. Keto, and was like, “What? No way!” I was like, “What’s your first name?” and
you’re like, “Aaron”. And I was like, “Me too!” Another coincidence — like, I get this all the time.
I know @kellie_keto gets this as well —
People think I’m shorter than I am, and I
think you’re also a tall person. Are you not tall? Yeah, I’m six foot five.
Holy crap, are you kidding me? Yeah, I’m 6’3″, and people always think I’m shorter than that. And I know
Kellie’s like 5’10”, and people always think
she’s super tiny. But yeah, lots of
similarities, man! Yeah it’s so good. And
and then so again, I think it was yesterday or the day
before, you posted a photo of you running,
and I was like, “What?! No. Like, where you on
Strava?” Now I’m following you, and you know, a whole bunch of really awesome…just
collaboration, intertwined things, and
you’ve got a YouTube channel, and you’ve
been doing the ketogenic diet, and you’ve
had some fantastic results with it, by
the looks, and you know, it’s… yeah, I just
…Maybe you can let us know a little
bit about what you’ve been doing, and
what…what you are doing currently. Sure,
man! I started doing the keto diet in
January of 2017. At the time, I was about
two hundred and seventy six… two hundred and…close to 280, I think. I had like stopped
weighing myself, because I just was
afraid to even look at what the scale
said. I sort of started doing… like,
January rolled around, and I was like “I’m
gonna do another… just gonna do calories in/ calories out.” And I stepped on the
scale a few times, and I was like, okay I’m at 276. But then a co-worker of mine
introduced me to keto, and said I should
give it a try, and I did. And pretty much
instantly knew that it was for me after
the first three or four days. I felt that
switch flip, and knew that it was
something I needed to do. I did have some
really big reservations in the early
going, mostly due to my cholesterol
situation, which I’m still dealing with,
but since then, I’ve dropped I think 62
…between 62 and 63 pounds. These
days, I’m maintaining at about 215 so.
It’s been a really fun year, as far as
like… discovering this whole way of
eating, and the whole community that’s
behind it, which I completely adore. It
wouldn’t have been the same without it.
It’s been… you know, just a real… Instagram
in particular has been a just an amazing
resource. So yeah, that’s that’s my
situation. That’s fantastic. What about you? I know that um… I don’t know
how long you’ve been doing keto, when you
started, why you started? So
so for me, I started Keto probably
about three years ago, and I was a little
bit the same. Like, I… I wasn’t worried so
much about my body weight. I was more
worried about sports nutrition and
performance, and things like that. And so,
what I was doing was, as I was cycling a
lot, and you know I was doing these big
long rides, and I was doing big long runs, I was doing half marathons, I was doing…you
know, 250 Ks on the bike, these sorts of
things. And what I found was is that I’d
get to about 3/4 of the way through any
sort of race, and I would just hit this
wall. And you know, I I don’t know whether
it was because I was wasn’t dealing with
my nutrition very well at the time prior
to being keto, and so I sort of looked
around, and I was listening to Tim
Ferriss at the time, and he said, you know
maybe this is the ketogenic diet, you know?Why don’t you try it out? And so I gave it 30 days, and
I tried it out, and as you said, you know,
like the first three days, you’re like,
“What is this thing?” You know, “What’s going on?” and and after you push
through that, and sort of figured it out a
little bit by myself, that I actually
came to starting to do the ketogenic diet.
And what I… I was doing it on and off for a
little while, and and I think that the
ketogenic diet can be a little bit
terrible if you’re on and off like that, and
so I gave myself this commitment thing.
It was probably around October 2016, so
just before you had started in January.
and I said, you know, I want this to be
more consistent. And the way I wanted it to
be more consistent was I started a
website, and I said, “I’m gonna upload all
the things that I’m eating, and if I have
people watching what I’m doing, you know,
then I have no reason to quit. There’s
absolutely no reason to go back the
other way.” And right I took that as like,
you know, a lot of motivation. I just
started hitting hard this website. There
was nothing. And you know, started off
uploading photos with my iPhone, and you
know, and a year later you get cameras
like this, and it just all gets a little bit out of
hand, but you know, it… it’s such a
fantastic place, and as you said,
Instagram’s fantastic, too. So yeah. Yeah, man. But I know what you’re talking
about, about the wall. Being a carb-burner and being an athlete for a while when I was
on the standard American diet, I did run
a marathon, and I hit the wall at about
mile 21, and just couldn’t…My body just
said, “Nope, I’m stopping.” And that was that
was like six years ago, but I’m committed
to doing another one this year,
fat adapted. So I’m excited to see that.
Actually the plans are a little fluid
right now. I’m not sure whether I’m going
to do a marathon, or this mountain ridge
run that a buddy of mine has kind of
invited me to do. So I might be doing
that. To b determined. Yeah, well, so
I’m also thinking the same thing. So I
decided not to do the marathon this year,
this one that sort of rolls around every
year. I decided not to do it because I
got so, you know, worried about my times
and all that sort of stuff, and I’m
thinking maybe that an ultra is in the
books. Maybe that I don’t know something
on the bike, maybe. Something crazy,
anyways. Something ridiculous. You’re thinking a bike race?
Yeah, so… I don’t know. I did a really long… so I did a 250K bike ride, probably
about two years ago now, and it was…the
distance wasn’t so bad, but it was over three
mountains, so I think there was like
15,000 feet of elevation. Yeah, with this
potential mountain ridge run, I
don’t run hills. Like, I went for a little
jog last weekend with some tiny little
hills, and I thought I was gonna die.
I’m like, I better start doing some more hills, or I’m going to be in really tough shape. Yeah. That’s definitely something I have to work on.
But man, I love your channel, and I love your… you know, your pictures are gorgeous. The
production on your videos is so good. I’m
working for one… I’m working towards one
of those cameras. I’m… right now, I’m using
just my phone, and making do with it, but
it’s… you know, there are certain things I
can’t do with it that I would like to do
with a nicer camera. You know what, though? And I
think I sent you a message about
this a little while ago. I was looking at
doing the… you know, I’ve really only started YouTube in the past two months, and I
was looking at it, and… and you know,
YouTube’s a hard place to to navigate
around, I think, and I was really you know,
feeling in the dumps, you know, I was like…
I’m putting all of this effort, 10 hours
editing these videos, and then I upload
it, and just… nothing. And then I watched
some of your videos, and I was like, you
know what? It… you are like this
personality, and it’s the personality
behind the videos that is more important.
So honestly, like using your camera,
whatever it is to do to get started, like
it is you who people watch, it’s not the
camera, and it’s not the aperture, and all
that stuff that people
think about all the time. Like you know
it was really great, and I sent you a message, and
I was like, “You know what? You just picked
me up.” Your videos are fantastic. Thanks, man! And I’m sure everyone on the
YouTube community maybe… might be also here on Instagram as well, I’m sure
they think the same thing, too. Yeah, I
do have a bit of an unfair advantage
when it comes to YouTube. I’ve been an
editor… I’ve been editing video for a
living since 1997, so I kind of know my
way around
editing, so that’s a little bit of my
unfair advantage.
But yeah, it’s… you know, I try to keep
people from being bored. Like as soon as
I’m start to start to be bored, I’m like
“This is… this is not working.” So ya know,
you pick up stuff over the course of 20
years that can definitely help, for sure.
That’s… that’s really interesting. So I
saw that you were doing an Instagram
live… no, not live. Just a story, and you
were recording something from all the
old tapes and putting it into the new
formats, and so it got me thinking, and so I
probably about three or four years ago, I
studied to be a fully fledged audio
engineer, and I completed that, and so
maybe I have a little bit of an unfair
advantage with audio, but really…Yeah! I
don’t know whether it helps or not, I don’t think it does! But what do
you do for a job, outside of…you know, the
A.D. Keto stuff? I’m an editor
at a small video production company in
Albany. There are only like five or six of us.
There are six… six employees. Myself, one
other editor / graphics guy who’s
amazing, and a director of
photography, two producers. And we do you
know, its corporate stuff. It’s not
something that you know, I’m thrilled
about doing, but it definitely beats
working. It’s… it’s something that I would
you know, it’s kind of… I would be doing
this anyway, and it’s nice to be able to
do something you really like, and make a
living at it. So it’s a lot of corporate…
internal corporate videos. Like, last
week, I was working on something for a an
asset management firm, and I’m like, “oh my god, this is the worst, most boring thing I’ve ever done in my life.” Yeah. BUT, you know, it
beats… you know, any other kind of job. So…Yeah. And I think as well, you can inject
your like, creativity into those things
that can bring some life to them as well.
Yeah. Yeah, There’s a bit of that. Some…
some clients are super-dry,
others are definitely open to that kind
of thing, so yeah. You’ve got to feel them
out. You know, you drop… drop a joke on a
client, and if they don’t respond at all,
you’re like, “All right, I guess it’s by
the books this time.” Yeah cut-and-dry.
So… so I probably you know…I love
hearing people’s story, you know. I love
hearing about what you do outside of all
the nutrition and things that you’re
doing as well, but I wanted to maybe flip
it over, and we can talk about a few
things that some people might be
watching and you know, they might be
new to the ketogenic diet, or maybe
they haven’t tried it yet, or they’re
looking to get into it, and there there’s
a question that I get a lot, and it’s… you
know, there’s actually…there’s so many
questions. There is like, thousands and
thousands and thousands of questions
that people ask as a beginner going
into the ketogenic diet, and what I found
was, is that I sort of sifted through a
lot of them, and I grouped them all
together, and put them into like a bit of
bit of hierarchy, and I came up with five
topics. How many did you say? FIVE, sorry! We can do four! Ha! Five topics,
that sort of you know,
emphasize what the ketogenic diet’s about,
or even what the low-carb diet is
about, and a few of the stumbling blocks
that people might have, and you
know, just the big old houses that we put
these things under, and for anyone who’s
starting the ketogenic diet and went
through the same sorts of struggles that
we did, maybe we can help them out with
that. So the first one I was wanting to
sort of get your idea on was simplicity.
You know everyone’s… you know
talking about these questions, there’s so
many different questions, and you’re like,
you need to keep it simple. What would
you think is… How did you keep the ketogenic diet simple when you first started?
This is something that I can speak to. Because you’re right, there’s a lot…
there’s just a lot of information when
you first start researching this diet.
Like, oh my god, how am I going to
navigate all of this stuff? Actually just
recently, my mom has started low carb,
which… it just warms my heart. She
pre-ordered Keto Connect’s cookbook today. I was so tickled. And so she’s always calling me,
and texting me, and asking me for, you
know, tips and showing me her macros and
all this stuff, and the way that I kept
it simple is I found meals that worked
for me early on. It was… it was
matter of first finding out how much I
needed to be eating. Like, my goal was to
lose weight. I need to be at a little bit
of a caloric deficit. Here’s what it
would be if I weren’t losing weight, so
I’m gonna pull back from that a little
bit, find that number of calories that I
should be eating. And then find meals
that work, that hit the ratios. You know,
the classic, especially in the beginning,
hitting the macros was important for me.
the 75/20/5 Classic pie chart is what I
focused on. Not so much anymore, but
definitely early on, finding meals that
worked. And it was usually eggs, an
avocado, mixed together, and bacon. Just
ate that for a week straight for
breakfast, and that really kick-started
the simplicity part of it. Like, that was
a decision that was off the table. Like,
that’s what I’m having for breakfast.
Every morning.
this is going to work. It hits… like this
this will satisfy those… that ratio. At least for breakfast. So that’s one of
the things that kept it super-simple in
the beginning, was finding a meal that
worked, whether… and it was not the
sexiest meal ever. It was boring, but it
did the trick. And I think that… that’s the
key. Finding the thing that works for you,
and sticking to that, and keeping it
really simple, and not worrying too much
about you know…actually not even worrying too much about calories in the beginning.
It’s more about, you know, making sure
you’re… you’re basically just working on
changing your body to adapt to fat, using
fat as your primary source of energy.
Because you know, because you’ve been a
glucose burner your whole life, it’s
gonna take… like that’s… that
should be the first thing you focus on
doing, is like… feeding it fat. making it
learn, “Oh, this is… this is what I’m using
now? Okay, I get it.”
So that’s that’s the thing, is keeping
meals simple, and that would be my tip
for keeping it… for the simplicity part
of it, is just finding a meal that works
and sticking to it even though it may be boring.
Yeah, I totally agree. You know,
and… and for some people as well, they
like to start the ketogenic diet, even
just doing breakfast. And so that
breakfast idea, where it’s just eggs,
avocado, and bacon, you know, that’s
something that so many people deprive
themselves of, prior to knowing what the
healthy fats were, and all this sort of
stuff. And and so I think, you know, yes.
Keeping it simple is fantastic there. And
also not being… I think when you
start the ketogenic diet, and you’re
trying to keep it simple, because you’ve
been, as you said before, like you… you’ve
been a glucose burner your entire life,
and so it feels very weird to step a
hundred percent into keto. It’s kind of
scary. Yeah, and so, and what you feel
like is, you know, if you do something
simple, and you know that it works, you
know that you can disregard all of the
things that your brain is telling you
about, “Oh, this is too fatty. What are you
doing? Why are you doing this?” All these
sorts of, you
know, negative ideas that…that come in the
back of your head, that …yeah it’s…
Simplicity and nailing those macros
to start with is so important, and I’m
glad you… glad you spoke about that, and…
and so another topic I wanted to get
your idea or on was the importance of
electrolytes. And so did you have
anything that, you know, did you have any
tripping blocks with electrolytes, or what
was your deal? I…I wish that I had known about electrolytes when I started keto. It’s one of the things that I
didn’t really pay attention to, didn’t… I
mean, I saw the words electrolytes, I was
like, “Okay, whatever. I’m just gonna eat
these foods.” I woke up so many mornings
with crippling calf pains. Like, my legs
cramped up so hard. I was like “Whaat is going on?” My legs hurt, and it
felt like I could tell my kidneys
were taxed. Like, my back hurt. It’s
because I wasn’t taking sodium, I wasn’t
taking potassium, I wasn’t taking
magnesium. Like those… soon after that, I
learned that those are…you know, you
really need to be taking those,
especially early on, due to all the
changes that your body’s going through.
Your kidneys doing different things, your
liver doing different things, those big
three are something I am still
supplementing, and are super, super
important, because yeah… the… I was, like I
thought that my body was just falling
apart. Like I was…”my body doesn’t like
doing this. It’s cramping up on me. What’s
happening?” But if I had known, just… you
know, to supplement those three things, I
would have been… would have been fine. Yes,
is there any particular
thing that you use now that you think
helps, and you know, you wish you knew
about when you started? Oh my god, yeah. I
I take 250 milligrams of magnesium in pill
form every morning,
and something that just started… like,
early on I would… I didn’t have potassium
supplements, but I started eating more
spinach, cruciferous vegetables that had
a lot of potassium in them. I’ve just
recently started supplementing with
potassium pills, which I think max out at 99 milligrams,
or something. And I’m considering
starting like a ZipFizz
thing, I think that ZipFizz can pack more
potassium into their…into the thing you
get from ZipFizz, but yeah. 250
milligrams of magnesium, 99 milligrams of
potassium, and then just salting
everything, pretty much that I
eat, with pink Himalayan sea salt. Okay, yeah so… so yeah. I knew about
magnesium to start with, but I didn’t
know that much about potassium, because I
came from the endurance cycling world,
and they’re like, “Well, to get potassium,
all you need to do is eat bananas.” And I
was talking to Dr. berry about this
last week, and he was like, “No!” Like,
even like, even saying that potassium is
in bananas is fundamentally not as
correct as something like avocados or
spinach, or even some nuts have more
potassium in them than… than bananas, so I
think, yeah it’s…You know, as well,
I have heard a lot about the ZipFizz.
I think Keto Connect were talking
about that, but it’s something Dr. Berry
also told me about. You know, if you can’t
find ZipFizz, or if you, you know, you don’t
order stuff on Amazon that much,
there’s this salt in America ,and in
Australia now that I found it as well,
it’s called NuSalt or Light Salt. Yeah. N-U, right? Yeah, that’s right. Yeah, and so what it…
It’s a product that was born around
people being very scared of salt, and
what happened was, is they go, “Okay, well
you know, let’s take some of the sodium
chloride out of it, which is the salt, and
let’s replace it with potassium.” And so
it’s actually a salt that’s half potassium,
half sodium chloride. I don’t know
how much potassium you would be getting
if you used salt on everything for that
anyway, but I… you know, I’ve started using
it, and I’ve started using it after runs,
I’ve started using it after, or even before
runs, and I think it’s it’s actually
pretty good, and it’s dirt cheap. It’s
like, two dollars for a big box of it. Nice!
Yeah, and then if anyone out there is
looking at the potassium side of things as
well, it’s… you can get it from any
grocery store.
Nu Salt in America or a Light salt in
Australia here as well. Have you, uh…have
you noticed a difference when you’re
cycling, supplementing before versus
after? Like, whenever I go out in the
mornings, I try to go out fasted. Like, I
go out and I do cardio fasted. I feel
like I’m just way more into it, way more
kind of focused on what I’m doing, I’m a
little bit…I think I perform a little
bit better, fasted. Do you find that
difference when you yeah supplement, when
you eat? So I was I you know, coming from
the high-carb carbohydrate cycling world,
I always used to have something to eat
beforehand, right? But then, as you start
to become fat adapted, fasting becomes
much easier, right? And so when you get up
in the morning, if you can get a little
bit more sleep in, and you can just walk
out the door, put your shoes on or even
sleep in your shoes if you want to, if
you’re crazy-dedicated, you know you get
older, and what I found is that I
supplement afterwards. Now supplementing
beforehand I have tried for eight weeks
now, and I feel like sometimes, you know
there’s things where you should
supplement beforehand ,maybe, like
caffeine. And electrolytes afterwards, I
find, are the best way to actually get
salt or like the water to come into your
cells, and for you to actually be able to
use that water that you’re drinking when
you come back. I do find that you have to
dilute the electrolytes down a little
bit, because depending, you know, if you
were to just drink it straight when you
first wake up, as opposed to when you got
back, that you know, you need different
amounts of water at those different
stages. However, right I was reading a
little bit more about this the other day,
and so there’s people who exercise in
the morning, and people who exercise in
the afternoon. There’s a book called When,
and I can’t remember who it’s by, but he was talking about the fact that if you want
to get a really fast time, and if you
want to or maybe beat your own PR or whatnot,
it’s best to do it in the afternoon. And
statistically, Olympic records, or broken
Olympic records have happened
statistically later in the afternoon
than they have in the morning. Interesting! Yeah. And so like, all marathons and big runs start in
the morning. SO early! Technically, at night, sometimes! Yeah, exactly. You get up at 4:00 in the morning, You’re like, “And we’re gonna start in two hours, and I’m
at the finish line already like, uhghh.” And so…on the flip side, though, if you’re exercising in the morning, and you’re exercising fasted,
you are more able to burn the fat on
your body at that stage than you are in
the afternoon. So I think using those
ideas tactfully, doing all your training in the
morning, and then getting to the
afternoon because your body temperatures
already increased and whatnot, and you’re
able to run a bit of time, maybe. That’s
what I found, and that’s what I’ve
experienced as well, but I don’t know.
How about you? I you know I’m still
figuring out the post-run sort of
nutrition. What what I really should
be doing after I come back normally just
start eating you know I’ll have a big old
protein-y meal when I come back from
from a long run. You know, eggs, or like
steak, even in the morning.
So supplementing, not not so much. I guess on run days, I’m more focused on eating
protein when I when I get back, and not
really worried about electrolytes. So you know. I should look into it more.
AGG just asked a question about something. Let’s answer a
few questions. Well AntiGravityGains has got some
questions here, too. AntiGravityGains is
AGG. He’s the PPP! The Phat Phueled Phenom.
He’s saying, either of you heard of citrulline malate? It’s supposed to help
clear lactate acid, improve recovery. So
yes, I have. I was listening to Ben
Greenfield the other day, and he was
talking about using your lactate to
recycle back to… so what happens when you’re
in a very, very hard interval, or a very
hard workout, you your muscles start
producing lactic acids, right? And you can
actually reuse that lactic acid as a
‘glucose’ for your… for your muscles by
supplementing with citrulline malate, and I
think that’s how you say it. I’ve only
ever read it, really. And… and so I think
that’s supposed to help shuttle the
lactic acid back through the Krebs
cycle, and produce ATP from that. So yeah,
it would be interesting to maybe look at
some studies from that, but the keto way
has also helped to reduce lactic acid
Greenfield is great, so yes. So great tip! Great and pick up, there. Chris says, “If you run in the afternoon, you get stopped by people who know you.”
So, I think you know maybe we should move on to the nutrition side of the ketogenic diet.
So when people start the ketogenic
diet, they are often looking at improving
their nutrition status, right? Because
they’ve either come from the Standard
American Diet or the Standard Australian Diet, and they might be eating lots of things
that didn’t agree with them, and you know
didn’t even know about it. So how did you
go into the ketogenic diet with
nutrition in mind, like what was your…
What were your goals based
around weight loss with regards to the
nutrition? Yeah, I think because I was… I
was focused on weight loss, it was all
about after that initial, you know,
couple weeks of “Am I killing myself, are
my arteries gonna Harden up, and like,
I’m gonna die.” It became all about just
focusing on you know, focusing on what
foods had the right macros, but then, it’s
tough to say. I think I was in such a
groove with those early meals for so
long, it became very… became very
normal for me, after after the initial
terror wore off… I don’t really know. You know, it’s
tricky. I I feel like I still have
issues with nutrition. I feel like I I’m
not the cleanest of eaters. I feel like I
still eat a lot of… I mean I’m not eating
sugar, but I am eating a lot of things
that have you know, artificial
sweeteners, a lot of ice cream. I I have a
sweet tooth that I’m still trying to
tame, and I’m working on that, but it’s
really tough. I am trying to focus
on eating foods. Like one of the things
that’s… well the simplest quotes that
I’ve ever seen is “Just eat food.” and
I’m like, you know what? I really have to
start just eating food. Like steaks, eggs.
That could be it, you know? Yeah. So
nutrition is definitely something that I
work on still. What about… what about
you? Yeah, so it’s funny. I
came from a family, you know one side was really into the high carb, low fat, low
fat yogurts, all sorts of things, and then
one side of my family, from my mom’s side
was she was actually a nutritionist, or a
naturopath, and so she knew a lot about
nutrition to start with, so when I first
got into the ketogenic diet, and I was
seeing lots of people just eating, I
don’t know, not worrying about nutrition
and simply just doing whatever works. And
I think that… that… I think that the
ketogenic diet is the place that that
works for. You know, I don’t think nutrition
needs to be as held highly as it did
when I first started, and what I thought
in my brain, because so many people
are getting such fantastic results, and
so if you’re doing it the way you think
is working for you, then who am I to say
that nutrition should be in on the
forefront of everyone’s minds? Like it’s…
it’s simply something that I
think that, you know, I struggle with
sweets all the time. I run a food blog
and 90% of
things that are on there are like, sweet
stuff, and and unfortunately it just does
very well on the in this blogosphere, and
so you end up having to make a lot of
those, and and I did have a very big
sweet tooth before I went keto, as well.
And it’s something that I still
struggle with everyday, and so I think
nutrition comes around exactly what you
said: eating food. Like, food doesn’t have
ingredients. It IS ingredients, and…
and I think yeah, some of those
replacements or some of, you know, I got very into the low-carb sort of bars and
shakes, and those types of things, and
what I found was, is that you can use
those as a tool. Absolutely. If you can,
use them if you’re time restricted, or you
know, any of those things that are
affecting you eating real food, like you
can you go and you play bun frisbee at
Macker’s, or you know, it’s like you go the
shops…What? You’re speaking Australian right now. I don’t understand you. And Dr. Berry was saying he said
you know, he used to pull into Wendy’s
and they had 100% beef in their patties,
unlike you know, other fast-food
restaurants, and he says, you know, if
you’re limited on time, and if that’s
your nutrition, and make sure you throw
out the bun, so play bun frisbee with
with that, but you know, nutrition comes
from what works for you. And so many
people have to find that out themselves,
and so I’m glad that you had to think
about it a little bit, because so do I. Like, every single day. And it just takes
thinking about it. Yeah, we’re…
we’re kind of breaking up a little bit
here. It’s okay. Hearing you. You’re just sort of getting
all blocky. I’m not sure, it might be my
internet. It sometimes freaks out like this,
but I’m not sure. But something you said
really resonated with me, and it’s that results
sort of blind you to nutrition. You know,
when you’re… especially in the early
going, when you’re dropping a few pounds
a week, I think in the first couple
months, I may have dropped the twenty
pounds.
You’re like, “I’m eating these delicious
you know, Quest bars. This is magic! These
taste so good! I’m losing weight!” And
you’re… sort of…the nutrition part of it
sort of escapes you,
but then as… like, as I’ve hit maintenance,
this is where I really find myself
starting to struggle a little bit,
because the things that really worked
for me when I was losing weight suddenly
are not… you know, the results are
obviously not there on the scale, even
though that wasn’t a huge…that wasn’t
the main focus, the things I used to eat
all the time now are not making me feel
as good as they once did, because I’m not
losing weight, it’s making me feel a
little… especially the Quest bars. I have
a really love hate relationship with
those Quest bars. I had like, three of
them the other day, and I felt just
terrible for a few hours. It’s something
that… the convenience of it is great, and
like you said, early on they’re really,
really helpful, and… but you are sort of
sort of blinded by them, because you are
still dropping weight. So it’s… it’s
something that I wrestle with. And you
know, like…and I think
it’s something that I love a lot of
people in the comments probably also
wrestle with as well. People who are
watching, you know? And… and so maybe we can talk a little bit about the next
topic, which is persistence. Yes. And I
think that you’ve probably experienced
this, where you know, you might have had
temptations, you might have had these
things that, you know, were going to set
you off on the wrong path, or you might
have had these outside influence,
you know, people telling you, well you
know , “What are you doing?” like, “Why are you doing this?” and… and so what are your
thoughts on persistence, and why is it
that important in the start of the
ketogenic diet? Particularly in the start,
it’s very, very important. And not just in
the keto diet. I think it’s it’s
important in every facet of life. I
think that, you know, diet-wise, it’s
really important, knowing you should be
eating, sticking to those things, but even
like, you may be finding, on YouTube, you
know? Like, a video every week is kind of
like, no matter what, there’s a video
going up. It might not be the best thing
in the world, but it’s going up. And just…
just having that mindset where…
I don’t know, I don’t want to say it’s
robotic, but once you get in the
mindset of persistence, it becomes more
natural. But yeah, diet-wise it’s… it’s
very, very important, and it’s tough. One
of the things, kind of relating back to
the nutrition thing, is that I live in a in a
household with four non-keto people, and
it… it added a little bit of an extra
challenge to staying consistent. There
was…Particularly in the beginning, I was
making my kids’ lunches, I’m making
sandwiches for my kids everyday. I’m
feeding them, you know, chicken nuggets
and tater tots for dinner, and this stuff
is in front of my face every night, and
you know, after…It was tough. Especially
in the in the beginning. I’m not gonna
lie and say that I didn’t have any of
those things, that I didn’t sneak a tater tot
every now and then, but after a little
while, those became… those things became far less appealing to me, and it’s just a
matter of sticking to it, and now I don’t
even think about those things anymore.
Like, they’ll …you know there’s bread in
the house, there are rolls in the house,
there’s bagels in the house, and I just
don’t even think about them. So
persistence and sticking to what you
know works for you is…is the thing.
Yeah, no, I totally agree. And there’s so
many people out there who are either in
a couple, or they’re in a family, or you
know whatever it is, and they’re finding…
they find it very tough to be that
person who sticks out, or you know, is
different from the norm, and not
necessarily that they get criticism for
it, but I think they start to question
why? You know, what… why are they doing it?
You know, is it just for weight loss? Or are you know, that can wait, or whatever it is,
and so it’s interesting to hear you say
that that has been a struggle in your
persistence in the ketogenic diet,
because I think it is a struggle for a
lot of people as well, and particularly
for me too, because my my girlfriend, she…
she doesn’t necessarily eat a lot of
carbs, but when she does, she has a lot in
the house. And I remember, I did a video a
little while ago where I showed everyone
everything in…in the house, and you know,
there’s jellybeans, there’s cookies, there’s…
you open the fridge and there’s chocolate,
and… and it’s so important to actually
realize that… that okay, that’s a
temptation. Okay, that’s… that’s what this
is, and just to be ok with it, and it
takes a little while, you kno,w like I
think that that formation of those ideas
and thoughts do take a little while,
because you’ve got to be ok with it, and
it’s like… it’s like meditation, almost.
You’ve just… you’ve got to practice it,
and you’ve got to… just eliminating all of
those foods from your house is not… is
not the way to do it. I think you’ve
you’ve got to just be ok with it.
It sounds stupid, I don’t know how to say
it any … any other way, but… For some
people like me, it’s not even an option to
throw out all those things. Like, I’m not
gonna throw it on my kids’ food, but you
know, if you’re persistent, and you know
what you’re doing, then things will be ok.
If you just stick to what you know is
working for you, and do your best to push
away the bagels, you know? So, my next cookbook that’s
coming out is actually based all around
this topic, so that’ll be fun.
But I think the next topic I wanted
to talk about was the science behind the
ketogenic diet. So I think maybe…what I
found that works for people in the past
is that to maybe suggest a book or
suggest a video, or whatever it is, that
people can go and reference before they start a ketogenic diet, or maybe
it was something that tipped you off, and
really convinced you to think that the
keytogenic diet was going to help you in
your scenarios. You know, what
what do you think about that? Well, most of my science, the things that I think about
when I think about “keto science”, my focus
is always cholesterol. Like, I’ve always
had high cholesterol my entire life, even
before I started keto, I’ve always had
cholesterol in the upper 200s to 300s, and as recently as a couple years ago, I
was on statin medications. So cholesterol
has sort of always been the thing that I
research, and look up, and searching and
trying to learn about, and that’s the
thing that terrified me when I first started,
because everything I read said that you
start the ketogenic diet and your LDL
shoots up. And I already had really high
cholesterol, and everything that my
doctor had ever told me is that high LDL
cholesterol is bad, and you need to work to
lower it. And the thing that really eased
my mind… well, not completely ease my mind, but the thing that made me less afraid,
was the research of a guy named Dave
Feldman. I don’t know if you’re familiar
with Dave Feldman. He is not a doctor.
He’s not a nutritionist. He’s not any
sort of medical professional. He’s an
engineer. I think a software engineer, or a
computer engineer, and he is what you
call hyper-responder. He had the same
reaction to the ketogenic diet that most
people have, except it really, really spiked
his LDL, like really, really high. And he
wanted to figure out why. So he came at
it with an engineer’s perspective, and
he’s done this amazing n=1
research for the last few years on his
website, which i think is called
cholesterolcode.com, and he basically
has used his own body to come up with
this amazing inverse correlation between
the amount of fat… basically his premise
is that the the lipid system is an
incredibly dynamic system, and it’s
basically an energy delivery system, and
it’s so dynamic that to base anything on
it particularly medications that are
going to mess up a lot of other parts of
your system a part of your body, is
ridiculous.
To… because it’s it’s so dynamic, and
he’s come up with this… I’m gonna ramble
a little bit here, but he’s come up with
this protocol to basically hack your
results, if you so choose. He found this
amazing inverse correlation between the
amount of fat that you ingest three days
before a blood test
and the results, that goes against
everything that everyone thinks about
fat. Like, if you eat super high-fat meals
three days before
a blood test, the results, your
cholesterol will shoot down. The less fat
that you eat, your cholesterol goes up. And there’s a three-day gap between the
time you eat and the time your blood
work gets done but the he maps out
his numbers, and many other people have
done this protocol, and have similar
results, that if you take the amount of
fat you eat and flip it, it looks like
your cholesterol numbers. And it’s
remarkably similar, almost in lockstep. So
it’s been super eye-opening to like, just
read about this guy, and what he’s doing,
what he’s researching.That’s… that’s been
my main focus is learning from him ,and
that really set my mind at ease. Like, the
demonization of LDL is another thing. The…
it’s an energy delivery service, like… an
energy delivery system, because you’re on
the ketogenic diet now, your body is
mobilizing fat, it’s… LDL is basically the
taxi that’s taking everything where it
needs to go, so it makes sense that your
LDL is higher, and then, the one last
thing I’ll say about the science of it
is… from personally, starting with
researching him, it led me to get answers
for my myself, get more in-depth blood
panels done — what’s called an NMR test,
which measures not only the amount of
particles, but the size and consistency
of the particles. Mine are mostly large
and fluffy… fluffy, which is what you want.
They kind of don’t stick your arterial
walls, and then the big one was a calcium
scoring test, which measures not just the
markers of what could be cardiovascular
disease, but ACTUALl cardiovascular
disease. They can see actual calcium
buildup in your arteries and your heart. It goes from a scale of zero to a
thousand, and my score was 14. So very,
very low, meaning that very, very low risk
of cardiovascular incident. So it really
did set my mind at ease, as far as having
high LDL. It’s just the way my body works,
and I’m completely at ease with it. I’m
off my statin medications and he’s a big
reason.
So I… he’s the guy I always tell people to go check out if they’re worried about cholesterol,
is Dave Feldman. Wow, that’s… that
and thank you for sharing that story.
That’s… it blows my mind, because I hear
about this, I find a little nuggets of
this type of information all around, you
know? And there’s this so there’s so much
of this information that it’s so hard to
get around to it, and I guess, you know,
when you said that cholesterol was also
a worry for you. When an engineer takes
nutrition perspectives and treats it you
know, in their own framework. So I used to
be a software developer, and the same
thing, you know, if you try and apply this
system to another way, or another area
that hasn’t used that system before, you
can get some fantastic results. So I’m
gonna have to check that out I’m gonna
check out that website, because I was
with low cholesterol. I know. I’m sorry. I
was I was just gonna say, I was diagnosed
with low cholesterol, so yeah. I don’t
know what the implications for that are,
either. So I’m gonna have to go check
that out. Yeah, I know that this guy…
that Matt and Megha just interviewed this guy a
few days ago, I think, but the
podcast isn’t coming out for another
four or five weeks, and I messaged them, I
was like, “Please ask him these questions
for me! Ask him these questions.” I’m really
excited to hear it. I don’t know if they
did, but oh man. I lost what I was gonna
say. Sorry. There’s another book as well I
don’t know whether you’ve read it, but
it’s called Cholesterol Clarity, and… and
the guy also done Keto Clarity.
Right, by Jimmy Moore. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I
have not read either of those I read Keto
Clarity, and it was pretty good. Yeah and
also Nina Teicholz’s The Big Fat Surprise.
That was really interesting for me as
well. That book was the reason I started
it again. Nice. Oh, speaking of books —
they aren’t super sciency but, well I guess
they kind of are. I read two books based
on an interview that Meg gave to Kyle a
couple weeks ago — Grain Brain,
and can’t remember the author of that, and then wheat belly. I knew that they’re adjective-
body part, or you know, Wheat Belly and Grain Brain. but they’re both… both the Grain
Brain in particular is making me very
angry to read, just the fact that you
know, we have been living for about
thirty years based on false information,
and it’s… it’s pretty infuriating to know
that you know, when… when the Dietary
Guidelines changed in the in the 80s or
that government said… the government…but
the USDA said “Eat more carbs, and don’t
eat fat” is when diabetes and everything
just kind of skyrocketed, you know? It’s
crazy. Yeah, and it’s all up to a panel of
people, and they have …they have
absolutely no idea, but they make a
educated guess, right? And… and it’s a when you…when you have thoughts like that, I
feel like it’s a little bit like – Lance
Armstrong of elite cyclists, you know?
That those types of organizations are
not willing to back down on their… on
their judgments, because they’ve put so
much behind it, that you know, they would…
they would feel like they look silly if
they were to go back on it, but you know,
we’re constantly learning, every single
day. We’re constantly learning from new
studies, and you know, and people are
taking the time to do them themselves,
you know? I think that we’re gonna see a
lot of big shifts over the next 10-15
years, with regards to nutrition. I really
hope so.
I feel like in general, the guidelines
would probably… they probably would take a
decade to catch up to emerging science,
which… I’m not willing to wait for. Like,
that’s part of the another part of the
reason I started keto, even though people
in my life questioned it, and I
questioned it myself, I wasn’t gonna wait
until it was mainstream to do it. Like, I
knew right after I started that this was…
this makes me feel fantastic. I’m losing
weight. This is kind of where I want to
be. Whether or not I’m ahead of the curve, I
don’t care. I’m not willing to wait until
you know, it’s “accepted” to start it. Yeah,
and I also think on the flip side, as
well, maybe the ketogenic diet isn’t for
everyone, and so when you try it
out for yourself, and you implement those
changes, and you see results, then why not? Like, there’s this… you know, you are in
charge of your own health,
really. And understanding it a
little bit more could potentially
lengthen your life ten to twenty years,
so why not? For sure. Yeah, it’s… it’s really fantastic to hear your
story as well, because I didn’t know
about the… you know, that you had high
cholesterol worries, and… and that the
ketogenic diet has helped you get off
statins. That’s fantastic. You know,
whenever someone says they were able to
get off the medication, wonderful. So
great. Yeah it’s crazy, because not only
did it skyrocket my cholesterol, but then
I also went off my cholesterol
medication. So it’s kind of like I did
the opposite of what you think you
should do. Yeah. But all my signs of
cardiovascular disease are miniscule to
non-existent, so I’m not worried about my
cholesterol. Yeah, that’s fantastic, you
know, and… and it’s great to hear so much
success as well. So you’ve been keto now
for a year and two months, is that right?
I think yeah 14 months. 14 months, yes. So
it’s… it’s fantastic to be able to help
those people who are beginners, or you
know, that might be someone out there
who’s just thinking about starting, and
might be in that scenario that you were
14 months ago, and… Absolutely.You know,
what advice would you give someone like
that, in this situation? I would say stick
to it, particularly if it’s the first few
days, and you feel like garbage, and you
want to stop. Don’t. It’s… there’s magic on
the other side of this this malaise that
you’re feeling, and to stick to it,
because the results are gonna come, and
when they come, they’re going to be…
that’s the thing about keto, is that
results really do, at least for me, they
did happen fast,
initially. And it really helped with
motivation, and sticking to it. I’m seeing…
seeing results, you know? But yeah. I would
say stick to it, and not just for the weight
loss, but for the mental clarity, for.. for
all the other non-weight related
benefits. You know, I had to sell my old
clothes, you know? You feel… you feel
better about yourself. I have more energy.
I was cleaning the house, like more than
I ever did. I just had this crazy energy that
I didn’t know what to do with. So yeah, I
would say stick to it, because it really
is…it’s a great… it’s a great feeling, you
know? Yeah, and and you know, maybe some of that extra energy’s going towards
starting a YouTube channel, so if you
haven’t started, you haven’t started
watching Aaron’s keto YouTube videos or
his YouTube channel, you should
definitely go and check it out. Type in A.D.Keto, and it should come right up. It’s
the green logo with your… with the
letters streaming in from the side . So it
really has been fantastic talking to you.
And you know, I think maybe this might
get uploaded to YouTube as well, I
think, if we can figure out how to save it.
Yeah, for sure! And I think… I think this will
help a lot of people, you know? I think
this… this video has contained a lot of
stuff that some people may not know, and
if they’re just going to start the ketogenic
diet, and they’ve watched this
video, I hope that someone gets a lot of
benefit out of this. Yeah. I really
appreciate you, you know sticking around.
I know it’s late. Agh. 10:00 is my time. My day is just starting now! The kids are in bed, this is when I record stuff, when I edit, yeah!
That’s fantastic. Well thank you for inviting me on, man, I feel like it’s been great. And you know, that’s the reason I
started the YouTube channel and the
reason I started doing Instagram is
because I knew that there were people
out there like me who were questioning
whether or not to start, and if I could
help someone say, “Hey, this weirdo did it,
maybe I can do it too.” That’s all there is to it. And and if anyone wants to see this video, it’ll be
posted on YouTube sometime, and
so and it’ll also be on I think our
Instagram for the next 24 hours too, so
again
Thank You, Aaron for sticking around and
and talking, and if you ever come to
Australia, more than welcome. Let’s go
for a run, and let’s go create some crazy
recipes or something. I would love to, man. Someday when I make those YouTube millions, I’ll come to Australia. Yeah. Adsense. Sponsored by…it’ll be a
plane that says YouTube on the side. All right man, thank you very much. Bye Bye. So that was my Instagram live session with
Aaron really want to thank him for
inviting me to do it. I had a really fun
time. Hopefully we can do that again
definitely check him out on Instagram.
It’s @FatForWeightLoss is his handle,
and definitely check out his YouTube
channel up here. He posts some amazingly
beautiful recipe videos. So, so… appetizing.
And that’s gonna wrap it up! Hope you
guys enjoyed it. Thank you for sticking
around this long, and I hope you have a
fantastic day, and I’ll see you next time.
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